% introduction and like stuff (ack)

woohoo! welcome to demonic prodcutionz' first for 1/97, some people
doubted,  some people hoped,  and here it  is.  It could  have been
bigger but it's still better.

i'll make  this part  nice and  short, the orgin of demonic.  being
genuinly fed up with modding after the deaths of just  about all my
old  affils  (tric, fsw, px, ts, sin, ta) i  decided to take up  my
own group (well, it was a nifty idea at the time) so i  decided  to
draft  some of my friends from  previous groups, i  mean, people  i
knew farily well and liked the work of.  at first i didn't get much
support,  but  eventually  (ie  after the  death of  most of  their
groups  and having nothing  better to do) we all got  together, the
final  step in my  grand scheme was  to actually set a release date
and then pester  the hell  out of them for their  work (this worked
fairly well in  most cases) a few odd  members joined (i don't know
where they came from but i'm not complaining) and here we are.

that wasn't short damnit...

% member info (no we ain't fsw but we gotz alot of their members)

well  right  now, since  this is our first  pack, i can't say  much
about the status  of our members that you can't see from the member
list. one thing you might notice is  that i'm the only  senior, the
truth  is  i'm a total  fascist (ok.. maybe not)  actually i didn't
want to be put on  the spot by  picking from  my friends.  by  next
release we should have that all straightened out =)

guests in this pack.  ok, the  guests.. well..  we do have  some of
them.  first  and foremost, special thanks to filth (cia) for being
such a bud and doing this  killer ansi at  the top.  next to  phlux
for the demon matrix in dem-app.exe (woo) one  of the  first people
to start supporting demonic was king jamez (tric) at the time there
was no tric and he was hurting for a modding group, he still chills
with us every now and then.  six6six (inj), about  the same to him,
thanks  for  setting up  various  bots  etc  etc  etc..  finally to
empty  (cia)  who said he'd  like to guest  mod/code with us in the
future,  though he didn't  get anything with us  this time.. thanks
anyways.  woah, quick update here, thanks  to mhz (remorse) for the
ultra oldschool diz..

joining.  to  apply  simply fill out the  enclosed dem-app.exe  and
send  us  yourinitials-app.txt  and  some work.  we  ARE  currently
excepting applications for distros and couriers.  if you would like
to guest simply contact me with some info.

% stupid ass quotes and stuff from irc (arn't they all?)

i had to really censored most of this stuff so i don't get arrested
they were taken from various logs of various channel i tend to hang
around for long  periods of  time in.  NOTE: after reading this you
probly won't like us anymore.. so you might wanna skip it.. allwell

<nd-> i was mass inviting
<t-tish> phlash - I'm still procrastinating
<t-tish> I wonder what the absolute
latest I can turn these mods in without jp
getting pissed.  oh god.  I'm turning into an
ansi artist. =]
<phlash> <chick on radio> i have head gear on
<t-tish> face condom?
<nd-> so... what kinda livestock do you have for
us , ss2?
<nd-> goat porn
<nd-> the minister keeps getting pissed cuz i
piss in the holy water
<phlash> yeah..
<phlash> i drink that shit..
<phlash> keeps me pure
<phlash> hey death.. how's it swinging
<phlash> what are your interests in demonology?
<ss2> are you satan worshipers? answer us first
<phlash> man.. lightbars rule ;)
<nivenh> you want speed?  you want speed?  i'll
give you speed.
<illusion_> <smack>
<Berserko> acid: nope i killed them and ate them
(i am jeffery daumer you know...)
* Larry_ is eating Corn Dogs
<nivenh> larry is a gummy bear.
<nivenh> bouncing here and there and everywhere.
<nivenh> tickle me you know where.
<nivenh> under me kilt and in me hair.
<Rapter> niv: wha? :)
<|ACiD|_> i need help gawd damn it
<Rapter> I think niv needs help :)
<everyone> what is the latest version of iniquity?
<everyone> when is iniquity a26 gonna come out?
<everyone> when is nexus/2 gonna come out?
*** |bleh| (nads@wants.to.do.sexual.stuph.org)
has joined #cia
<spear> (im a big pot smoker)
<spear> *nudge*
<filth> distortion
<discyple> a nigga with an ax couldn't hax it
<discyple> and i certainly can't

% random shit (aka my little bitching/whining essay for this month)

where the hell are all the modding groups nowdays?  it seems as the
internet  grows, bbses  inevitably die along with it.  this is  the
the  DEATH  of the bbs scene,  while the art scene still flurishes,
our scene, however, does not.

since the days of the first modding groups (firm, tric, cream, etc)
we  have  not been able to keep  our groups  together no matter the
leaders,  coders, modders, artists,  whatever  we  employ.  (as the
amazingly cool  group fsw taught the scene last year)  we just keep
droping off to the plauge of the internet.

"why can't we be more like the art scene?" most semi-successful art
groups / packs seem  to be heavily  cluttered with  art (take aaa's
first pack, or  even plan9's.. not to be rude, i love both of them)
sometimes to componsate  for lack of work  for their packs.  (aaa?)
and sometimes because they joint groups (art and modding) (plan 9?)
that or they just suck. (projectx) actually, most of the impressive
groups premeiring  these days  are heavily affiliated  with the art
scene, that  is, having alot of artists or sharing  with art groups
(xpress's releation to force?)

another scene we  should try to be more like (steal ideas  from) is
that  great thing which  most of us neo  style modders know nothing
about,  the  european scene, as a whole is pretty  nifty, but their
groups  are a force to be reconed  with.  most of them  release and
mod seperatly and tend to have awsome release lists as long as your
arm,  i'm  talking  about the  system/x, desire,  pc/x,  ami/x, pcb
modding groups (food, xroads, gen/x)

though many old modding groups are trying to make revials (illness)
though  most of which are rather  unsuccesful though i can think of
one good come back (tric.. who came back after like 7 months.. heh,
an old group it was too.. my first.. good going)

on a slightly more hopeful outlook, we (modders) have been resently
influenced  by this years sudden rush of new bbs softwares floating
around or in-development (instinct 3.0, nexus/2, quantum,  pantheon
penis/x.. haha)  hopefully we'll get to  see the releases of all of
these, except penix/s of course ;)

well, as my whole point of this whining session.. the modding scene
is quickly dying and we  need something to preserve, actually, what
i had in mind was a modding/bbsing archive, acid's artpacks and the
demos  colletions on  ftp.cdrom.com are excellent examples  of what
i'd  like to  achieve (bbs  softwares,  mods, modding  packs.. etc)
since it's  obvious (if you havn't noticed) that acid doesn't  want
our  (or  anyone else's) modding  packs on it's server,  which is a
another reason to do this.

i  don't care  who does it, me, or someone  from some other  group,
just that it's done,  uploadable, leechable and no or little rules.
god  knows  it's damn  hard to get a  bbs stuff  unless  you really
search.  someone do this!  on a perm  server to..  i'd gladly  hand
over my personal collection for such a cause.

on one final note, in future info files i'll be throwing  in a list
of all  modding groups  that  i know of.. if  you run one or a part
of one email me with information...

anyways, until next time.. jack phlash (demonic prez)

% how to contact us (me)

jack phlash's email address.................(jp@washington.xtn.net)
offical demonic ftp site..........................................)
offical demonic irc channel..................(#demonic on us efnet)
offical demonic whq board..............(distortion, currently down)
offical demonic home page.................(oops... in construction)

% misc greets and stuff

a special thanks to all the mod groups i've hung  wish the past few
months, especially tric and woe for putting up with our shit.

also greets to all muh boys in #bbswarez and #cia

% end of file (got the hell away)