% introduction and like stuff (ack)

welcome to  demonic  productionz' third pack! 05/97! this  has been
a pretty good 2 months, this we've gotten some ground breaking mods
and doors, and alot of them, also alot of new members and dis sites
anyways, hang back, relax, and get DEMONIC...

wow, we were alittle late again this month, we missed it by a week,
just  waiting for the  for mods from a few people, we didn't get to
many of  the  ones we were  waiting on, but  who cares.. ;) there's
always next pack.

also  we've adapted a new  policy, we  will be supporting  seperate
releases too big to but in the  pack (bbs softs, misc programs, bbs
setups, ect) these releases will be availible  from our dist sites
and our ftp...

i'll make  this part  nice and  short, the orgin of demonic.  being
genuinly fed up with modding after the deaths of just  about all my
old  affils  (tric, fsw, px, ts, sin, ta) i  decided to take up  my
own group (well, it was a nifty idea at the time) so i  decided  to
draft  some of my friends from  previous groups, i  mean, people  i
knew farily well and liked the work of.  at first i didn't get much
support,  but  eventually  (ie  after the  death of  most of  their
groups  and having nothing  better to do) we all got  together, the
final  step in my  grand scheme was  to actually set a release date
and then pester  the hell  out of them for their  work (this worked
fairly well in  most cases) a few odd  members joined (i don't know
where they came from but i'm not complaining) and here we are.

that wasn't short damnit...

% member info and other equally unimportant news

senior  members!  i've decided to move natedogg up  to the position
of vice  president, being the  chum he is, and  impressing me latly
his  modding/coding and his views on group organization, he doesn't
know  it  yet, infact  noone  does.. but.. well.. hey.  i instantly
assigned voivode  the task of  illusion  head on his  arrivial (for
obvious reasons) all  other senior re-assignments  are noted in the
members list.

producing members?! damn! dark enity  finally got his ass around to
making a mod,  infact.. 2 releases  this month! just  playing, he's
been  busy with  alot of  other shit this month, like  apathy ascii
editor and being cia ascii head! natedogg released an rather  large
amount of material this month, and it's really fucking good ;)

new  members.. well, we've had alot of arrivials  this month.. lets
see, forgive me if anyone is missing.. but it's a bitch ;) lets see
johnny  mnemonic  joins our  illusion modding  divsion,  as well as
voivode, who also  joins  are coding division  with his  release of
demonic!view. spin joins are  door coding division, chrom joins are
ever  growing pcboard  division, tryzix  joins for iniquity, iceman
applys as a coder, and spos joins as an artist  and modder, i think
thats it.. (but it seems doubtful.. )

leaving members.. black candel was dropped  for inactivity and for
another  group, meneluas  drops for lack of time, technobrat quits
because we made fun  of him alot ;) and lack of time.. and wow, i
think that is it..

guests and stuff.. special thanks to max headroom (tric) for hangin
with us, running the bots, etc and his enlightening chit chat, also
tzeentch for the nice diz, and mhz for the mod list header!

joining.  to  apply  simply fill out the  enclosed dem-app.exe  and
send  us  yourinitials-app.txt  and  some work.  we  ARE  currently
excepting  applications  for  distros  and  couriers. (though  i am
starting to lose track of them) if you would like  to guest with us
simply contact me on irc.

% random shit (aka my little bitching/whining essay for this month)

whine of the month (originally for tsu emag)

Why illness sucks...

Now, I don't want  to say it's  exactly right to go  around bashing
other groups, but illness is a giant load of crap.

Their  original  packs  are  a legend,  really  good  renegade  and
oblivion  modding and  coding, mixed with  some of the best art out
there, (best ever in some people's eyes) they  released quite a few
packs and I definitly consider them as one of the founding and best
modding  groups ever  and  so do many  other  modders, so illness's
record, respect, and therfore their reputation proceeds them.

Now, illness tried to come pack in 1996, every modder in exsistance
seemed to jump on the bandwagon, or at least wanted to. Even people
from the art scene, who had  either never modded for a group before
or simply  don't  mod.  they released a  pack, which I, personally,
consider to be crap.. simply a  collection of older  mods and doors
which, a few of them, had  been updated.  I don't know  exactly why
why never  released again  after that, but I don't  really consider
this little "reunion" to be part of their record...

So  after that,  all these  good  coders and  modders  and  artists
crawled  back into their  littles holes, or art groups, or whatever
else they were doing previously and hid...

Until Illness decided to start again.. again! Again?  I thought the
last time was bad enough, but.. so now all these modders crawl back
from they're shells and rejoin, now.. these  people totally stopped
modding  until  illness came  back, what crap! specially  when they
brag about how Illness  is the shit and  every  other group sucks..
It's just a matter  of "if I want to release, I want  to release in
the  group  with a  brand  name like  Illness"  What  are you  guys
turning into?  Artists!?!  If you're modding for the fame of it, go
join Acidic or something...

So, I could gone on about that for a few more pages. :) So, Illness
decided  to pop  back up  about the  same  time  I started  Demonic
Productionz, I  was pretty  fearing of what  they had to offer, but
after the first month, they didn't release.. then the second month,
nope.. then we put together the first dem  pack and I was  startled
with the  notion that illness  might release  too and blow us away,
but nope and still nothing.. I've heard rumors of leaders changing,
the group had to take a few months to reorganize, etc..

crap..

Hell, I've even  heard that Illness never even died, they were just
on vacation for two years, yeah right, think about it.. how can you
take a  group  that has  been gone  for 2 years  seriously?  People
thought  tric was  dead  after a  few  months..  the  thing is, the
illness label  is so  big, and so  bloated, people just  worship it
wheather  it  releases  or  not. well  you  should  have let it DIE
peacefully,  but  if  you  think  you're game, bring it on Illness,
we're all ready, all of us modding groups, and you don't have ld to
help you now...

% how to contact us (me)

jack phlash's email address.................(jp@washington.xtn.net)
offical demonic ftp site...............(ftp to demonic.kracked.com)
offical demonic irc channel..................(#demonic on us efnet)
offical demonic whq board..............(distortion, currently down)
offical demonic home page..........(http://www.demonic.kracked.com)

% misc greets and stuff

a special thanks to all the mod groups i've hung  wish the past few
months, especially tric  and woe for  for putting up with our angst
little asses...

also greets to all muh boys in #bbswarez, #serial and #cia

oh yeah, and check out ick!mag.exe for other bbs scene news..

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