% introduction and like stuff (ack)

well, it's  been a long vacation  and i'm almost  embarrassed to be
back. nope, we  were never dead. we just took an extended vacation,
I was busy, and I guess everyone else must have been judging by how
much work I got. so we just didn't do anything, and besides, it was
fun  checking  woezine  to see how  their  comments  about  us  not       releasing got nastier every issue. so, it seems pretty dead for the
modding  scene, but  we still  managed to  whip out a pack. as I've
said from the beginning, demonic will never die. if  I have to make
it  seperate releases only (which i'm seriously thinking about) and
i'm the only one that does them, then hey.. cool.

a lot  of shit has happend  since we last released. lemme me think,
mystic  bbs,  lucid bbs,  iniquity a26r5,  working  on 2.00,  vivid
development,  iq hacks,  infusion,  impulse,  vision  and obv/2, it
almost seems like  a new energy  has swept through  the bbs modding
and  coding scene,  though not mod group wise, it's dead down here.
even  the  pcb  and s/x groups arn't doing much.  theres  a few new
groups, insomnia, whotang, the edge, and a few more. though nothing
mentioning.  most  of  them tend  to be  ideas rather  then groups,
allwell.  good  ideas. tric  is  pretty  dead, woe  is  still alive
whether or not they're keeping  busy (maybe they'll take a vacation
too) though I heard a rumor some of the seniors left. all's good in
the art scene, as  always. those  guys complain  to much to have it
so  good. hehe. anyways, this  pack is nothing  out of the ordinary
for us, not  to big, not  to small. go  take a look... and  for god
sakes, call some bbses.

our ftp site and our web site have been updated and our now located
in my pants,  we've got lotsa files online, and more if you leeches
upload, and the page is reorganized, more links more frequently.

our seperate release policy is still, as always in effect, seperate
releases too big to but in the  pack (bbs softs, misc programs, bbs
setups, ect) are availible  from our dist sites and our ftp...

i'll make  this part  nice and  short, the orgin of demonic.  being
genuinly fed up with modding after the deaths of just  about all my
old  affils  (tric, fsw, px, ts, sin, ta) i  decided to take up  my
own group (well, it was a nifty idea at the time) so i  decided  to
draft  some of my friends from  previous groups, i  mean, people  i
knew farily well and liked the work of.  at first i didn't get much
support,  but  eventually  (ie: after the  death of  most of  their
groups  and having nothing  better to do) we all got  together, the
final  step in my  grand scheme was  to actually set a release date
and then pester  the hell  out of them for their  work (this worked
fairly well in  most cases) a few odd  members joined (i don't know
where they came from but i'm not complaining) and here we are.

that wasn't short damnit...

% member info and other equally unimportant news

senior  members... thought  voivode isn't  doing anything, and he's
pretty much  out of the group, he's  still listed as ill head, just
in case, julian joined, and since jandors not  doing anything, he's
obv/2 head now. kargus is now coding head, just because he tries to
hard, and esc has been boosted to iniquity head.

new  members.. ok, first off, we  were not  accepting  members  for
of the time we were idling, so.. sorry, but if you applied then and
are still  interested then please reapply. some people we did grab:
toxic, a itc coder, blooz, an iq developer and artist, and  julian,
an oblivion/2 modder.

leaving members.. way to many people to mention have been kicked or
have quit, mostly due to inactivity, if anything of them want to re
join they will be accepted instantly.

joining.  to  apply  simply fill out the  enclosed dem-app.exe  and
send us yourinitials-app.txt  and  some work.  we ARE NOT accepting
applications  for  distros  and  couriers. if  you  would  like  to
guest with us simply contact me on irc.

% stuff that doesn't matter

this article was originally in jp-mc1.asc in the 53rd (i believe) cia art pack.

Well, i've been reading alot latly about the future of the scene, or
at least what people think/hope/regret it to be.  I'd agree with people that
say our scene is going nowhere fast, if it weren't for the fact that I know
we could all change it so easily.  The key here is bbsing, notice I didn't
say bbses, there are still plunty of them, but there are so few bbsers that
the ones that are still around unfortunitly won't be for long.

Many of you know, I run a bbs modding group, which some people in the
art scene regard as rather funny, because bbses are dead, right?  Then why
the fuck are you guys in the scene at all?  Hasn't it ever occurred to you
that ansi is for bbses?  Noone draws for them anymore, they only draw for
other artists, and groups, and most artists can't keep a board up for more
then a week, in which they probably change the name of it 20 times.  If
someone does want an ansi for their bbs, and they're not an artist, then
they get greeted with a price and a bad attitude, another reason why ansi is
dying.. nothing to draw for, but it's mostly the artists faults.  It's not
just the art scene being disassociated with bbses, I saw a warez release the
other day where the file_id.diz was named wrong, and it was even one of the
bigger groups. *sigh*

So what do we do?  Telnet boards are far to slow, and telnet it's self
isn't exactly the best thing in the world, and noone wants to get off of the
internet for long enough to call a real board, most of which are long
distance to everyone else.  I don't care, I don't like paying for it, but
keeping bbsing alive is worth a little phone bill to me.  Well, there's not
many new bbs softwares around, but there's a shit load of older ones sitting
around gathering dust that you could play around with, no matter how bad they
are, that was the point of modding in the first place, take a crappy software
and make it impressive, something to brag about.

It's quite simple though, as people stop using bbses, bbses go down,
as bbses go down, so do modding and art groups.  It wouldn't be at all hard
to reverse the process, even if it just meant calling an ld board once a
month, or actually taking requests for art... All the complaints and articles
out there like this one don't do a damn thing unless people will actually
respond to them and do something about it... jp@xtn.net

some crap from julian, the new oblivion/2 head.

hola, peepz, this is julian.  heard of me?  no?  oh well.  so i'm the new
obv/2 head.  seeing as how obv/2 is being coded again, i figured it would
be a cool idea to get a few new mods out there.  if there's anything
you'd like to see, let me know.  and for info on the new release, check out
check out http://oblivionbbs.home.ml.org for updates. so that's about
it.  hasta!

% how to contact us (me)

jack phlash's email address........................(jp@demonic.net)
offical demonic ftp site...................(ftp to ftp.demonic.net)
offical demonic irc channel..................(#demonic on us efnet)
offical demonic whq board..............(distortion, currently fuct)
offical demonic home page..................(http://www.demonic.net)

% misc greets and stuff

thanks to  prototype/co2 for bugging us so much, we've really upped
our  recruiting standards now,  and to chaos, who never has or will
join demonic,  even if  the bot does accidently give him  ops. also
greets to drummer, comatose, raekwon, skaboy101, and all you fools.
greets  to #iniquity  for talking  slightly more  about bbsing then

oh yeah, and check out ick!mag6.exe for other bbs scene news..

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